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Side Affects Podcast
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At McGohan Brabender, we know the importance of staying on top of the latest industry trends and keeping your workforce informed. That’s why we created our podcast, Side Affects, to help take the complexity out of healthcare.
Whether you are new to insurance or a seasoned executive, our podcast provides expert advice and innovative ideas about leadership, legislation, culture, compliance, and other topics. When you tune in to Side Affects, you’ll access exclusive insights from industry experts who share their knowledge and experiences. Our hosts, along with our guests, provide practical advice and proven strategies to help you improve your services in a crowded market.
Our podcast, which has received “new and noteworthy” recognition three times, was the first benefits podcast published on iTunes and is designed for busy professionals who want to stay informed while continuing to keep up with the demands of their business. We offer an immersive audio experience that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, making it the perfect tool to help you stay ahead of the curve.
Explore our collection of over 130 podcast episodes and discover how we can help you elevate your benefits.
Featured Episodes

Episode #143
The Missing Piece in Corporate Wellness: Mental Health First Aid
Mental health is essential in the workplace, and in this episode of Side Affects, hosts Kenzie and Dave talk with Tiffany Kuck about how Mental Health First Aid Training is transforming corporate wellness. They explore rising stress levels, legal challenges, and proven strategies that help companies lower healthcare costs, boost productivity, and create healthier, happier teams.

Episode #142
Compliance in Minutes – February 2025
Employees hear 'benefits' and think perks like healthcare, PTO, and 401(k)s, while HR pros focus on costs, strategies, and compliance. Join Producer, Kenzie for February 2025’s Compliance in Minutes.
Previous Podcasts
Episode #091
The Out-of-Office Output Isn’t Adding Up
Kristi Dinsmore from Carter Fraser discusses how long companies and their employees can endure working outside of their department walls. Most people need to be around people, and if they aren’t, cracks begin to show in productivity. Listen and learn how to transition your workforce back into the office successfully.
Listen NowEpisode #090
The Urgency of Adaptation | Open Enrollment Communication During COVID-19
HR manager, Mary Howbert from G&J Pepsi-Cola Bottlers joins Kenzie & Dave to discuss how to tackle the curve-balls of conducting a business's HR side, especially open enrollment, during this pandemic. Open Enrollment is an imperative time to engage all employees and it's time for businesses to get agile and creative.
Listen NowEpisode #089
Break the Rules: Automate your Annual Benefit Communications
2020 has turned most of us upside down, so it may be the time to try something new for your benefits communications. For this Side Affects episode, producer, Kenzie Fell has pulled our Director of Strategy and Innovation, Dave Homan, from behind the scenes, upfront to discuss different options for open enrollment.
Listen NowEpisode #088
Don’t Let COVID-19 Damage Your Relationship with Your Clients
Lance Tyson, owner, President, and CEO of The Tyson Group joins MB CEO, Scott McGohan for a conversation about COVID-19 and how it is affecting their approach to sales. Companies are adapting to this new normal very differently, and you must be prepared for anything. Take a listen!
Listen NowEpisode #087
Benefit Technology: Rip and Replace? | Part 3 Of 3
What is the shelf life of technology? What you needed in 2010 may not be what you need now. Kenzie, Anne Marie, and Kelly from BTR highlight how important it is to build a relationship with your Benefit Technology vendor. Tune in to make sure technology is working for you and you are not working for the technology.
Listen NowEpisode #086
HR Technology Implementation Doesn’t Have An Easy Button | Part 2 Of 3
You've vetted and chosen your HR Technology, now it's time to implement it! HR Technology Consultant, Kelly Zimmerman of BTR shares the best steps going forward for a successful transition of your HR Data. Being prepared and consistent is key during an implementation. Tune in to round two of our HR Tech series!
Listen NowEpisode #085
The Building Blocks of HR Technology | Part 1 of 3
Kelly Zimmerman from Benefit Technology Resources explains the importance of HR Technology. No matter the size of your company, you will use some sort of technology to support your workforce. Right now, COVID-19 has spotlighted the evident gaps. Tune in to part one to build your foundation of HR Technology knowledge!
Listen NowEpisode #084
Finding Control in the Chaos
Laura Putnam, CEO of Motion Infusion, joins Scott and Kenzie to explain how to continue to live our lives when it feels like our world is falling apart. Laura shares how important it is to know the facts, and also reminds us that we can't always be in control. However, we can control how we respond to this pandemic.
Listen NowEpisode #083
Which Companies Figured “It Out” Following the Last Recession
MB CEO, Scott hosts Ed Eppley from The Eppley Group as they reflect on the recession of 08-09 & how COVID-19 imitates it in emotion but is caused by different circumstances. Scott and Ed discuss a 2010 Harvard Business Review article & give advice to business owners on how to overcome fear during these trying times.
Listen NowEpisode #082
Telemedicine: Not Just for Pandemics Anymore
Hooray Health CEO, Shane Foss joins Kenzie & Scott as they discuss how COVID-19 is changing the health care process. Telemedicine has been around, but like this pandemic, digital health usage has increased because of the convenience, and of course, the need. Tune in to hear Shane’s ideas for the future of tele-health!
Listen NowEpisode #081
An Organization’s Working from Home Survival Guide
The COVID-19 outbreak is forcing businesses to adapt while employees work from home and managers lead remotely. Workplace and multi-generational expert, Lindsey Pollack joins Kenzie Fell and Scott McGohan, to share some key ingredients that can help your workforce adjust in this time of crisis and plan for the future.
Listen NowEpisode #080
Strategize Your Wellness Program with Incentives
From free gym memberships to premium differentials, the options are endless when it comes to incentive strategies. MB Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck is back with Kenzie and Dave to discuss the difference between outcomes based programs and participatory programs. Learn how it all starts with education first!
Listen NowEpisode #079
One Drop of Blood Could Save Your Life!
Producer Kenzie Fell welcomes a special guest host as they chat with Population Health Manager, Tiffany Kuck. Tiffany specializes in health and wellness and shares the importance of providing biometric screenings. One simple finger stick can change peoples' lives for the better and it all starts with education. Listen!
Listen NowEpisode #078
Culture that Drives Loyalty Around the World
Ken Wigton of Michelman, Inc. globally headquartered in Cincinnati, OH, joins CEO Scott McGohan and Side Affects producer Kenzie Fell to discuss how Michelman is able share the Midwest culture with seven locations in the US, Europe, and Asia. Learn why Ken believes it all starts with consistency in the hiring process.
Listen NowEpisode #077
The Best Career You’ve Never Considered
Bob Higgins, college professor and educator from The University of Cincinnati joins Kenzie and Scott to talk about the Center for Insurance and Risk Management. Bob shares how this specialization is becoming more and more appealing and how he is increasing awareness about job opportunities. Tune in to learn more!
Listen NowEpisode #076
Being Present With Absence Management
Join Kenzie and Anne Marie as they chat with absence management expert, Kristin Hostetter from Lincoln Financial Group. Kristin has seen the entire process take some creative turns. Pawternity anyone? Listen and learn if you should consider some adjustments to your family leave to keep your staff happy and loyal.
Listen NowEpisode #075
Me, Me, ME! It’s Not Just the Millennials
“I deserve this!” But… do you really? MB friend, Kristi Dinsmore joins Kenzie and Scott to discuss a very popular and concerning subject regarding the entitlement some individuals use to gain position, power and reward. Entitlement is not just about millennials - it's impacting our entire society in general. Tune in!
Listen NowEpisode #074
Regenexx | Joint Restoration
Scott McGohan and MB President, Mike Suttman are joined by Regenexx CEO, Jason Hellickson for a special Side Affects episode as they discuss an increasingly popular alternative versus orthopedic surgeries. Regenexx uses human healing cells to restore compromised joints. It's time to consider a new way of treatment.
Listen NowEpisode #073
A Front Door for Health Care – Quantum Health
Side Affects Producer, Kenzie Fell and MB CEO, Scott McGohan are joined by Steven Knight from Quantum Health -- a consumer navigation company that thrives on creating a clear pathway to a genuine and trustworthy experience. Listen as they discuss the importance of being a "front door" for health care consumers.
Listen NowEpisode #72
The Power of Human Capital
MB Recruiting Coordinator Lauren Hemm joins Kenzie and Anne Marie to share her tips for candidates, how she searches for potential employees and the kind of questions you should ask to get the full story. When looking for a position, you may have the skills, but do you fit in with the company’s culture?
Listen NowEpisode #71
Anatomy of a Renewal: Let’s Strategize
Your employee benefits renewal isn't a one-time transaction. It's a strategy and discussion that should be happening throughout the entire year with your benefits team. MB's Director of Account Management, Todd Clarke joins Kenzie Fell and Scott McGohan to explain the anatomy of a renewal from start to finish.
Listen NowEpisode #70
Fast-Tracking Millennials for Leadership
With today’s thriving economy, many of your managers have been thrown into leadership roles so fast, that reluctantly, there is no time for proper training. The newer employees are eager to succeed, but are they equipped to manage? Listen in and learn how to grow with millennials and develop them into leaders.
Listen NowEpisode #69
Data Analytics: CSI
Kenzie & Anne Marie welcome MB’s Manager of Strategic Data Analytics, Kelly McCall. She explains the advantages of our data analytical software & how we can assist our clients to make future decisions by looking at the medical claims of the past. Tune in to hear how Kelly can help solve the mystery of high claim risk.
Listen NowEpisode #068
Hats off to that Entrepreneurial Spirit
Side Affects welcome University of Dayton senior, Danielle Ruffolo to the show. Dani turned a class project into a thriving business thanks to some hard work & a strong support system. From the classroom to Shark Tank, tune in to hear how this entrepreneur grew her business by simply sewing a sock into a baseball hat.
Listen NowEpisode #67
How savvy is your social media strategy?
Scott discusses today’s social media concepts with Multimedia Specialist, Kenzie Fell. Kenzie has only been at MB for 8 months but has put MB on the social network ‘world tour.’ Learn how sharing your company’s culture & brand places you in a different light that attracts new clients and recruits skilled talent.
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